I don't see any reason why they couldn't include the full concert. I mean, they broadcasted the entire NY concert in japan.

(02-24-2010, 01:40 PM)polarwhiteseal Wrote: I don't see any reason why they couldn't include the full concert. I mean, they broadcasted the entire NY concert in japan.

Because perhaps since the sound at the Wiltern is notorious for being really crappy, the other performances didn't go too well in editing. I don't really know, I'm just saying that there are probably reasons why they didn't include the full show.

(02-24-2010, 05:03 AM)VAMPS + American Street Team + Wrote: Ten songs + a documentary is better than no DVD at all. ;) I love the DVD cover, btw...sexy!!

True, but it still would be nice to have all the perks and pleasures of being a Japanese fan. I mean, think about all the cool things we can't buy without going to extensive measures. A VAMPS music box, a wide variety of T-Shirts and accessories, and above all, membership to HYDEIST/VAMPADDICT. Don't get me wrong, I understand fully well that there are good reasons for this, but that doesn't make it any less of a downer, so a full show just like the Japanese DVD's would be the LEAST that would make us happy.

Since I didn't go to the LA show, the only thing I can really say is that the documentary better have good amounts of footage from the show in Baltimore. Seriously, I feel like that show is almost completely overshadowed by the New York and west coast shows and even the VANS Warped Tour shows. You only get, liek, two seconds of them doing ANYTHING in Maryland in the New York documentary. At least with the other shows, you get, liek, 10 seconds of stuff. I mean, did HYDE say "Do you like crabs?" in Portland? Probably not >=| *selfish, selfish, selfish*

(02-24-2010, 01:40 PM)polarwhiteseal Wrote: I don't see any reason why they couldn't include the full concert. I mean, they broadcasted the entire NY concert in japan.

They probably had FujiTV's help for that. I tend to think the reason they're only releasing ten songs is probably because....

1) They'll be releasing VAMPS LIVE 2009 (arena) two months later as well as two new singles and an album in the following months. Distribution costs money and the length and quality of the DVD contributes to the price.

2) They have to save up for the world tour, as well as the Japanese arena tour.

3) Although the target audience is America, it's only going to be distributed in Japan. The Japanese audience, therefore, is predominately going to be buying the arena tour DVD, and who should blame them? Not only is it a show they likely attended in their own homeland, but they were able to decorate the venue to fit the VAMPS atmosphere, which is a bit more exciting than just having the VAMPS album logo in the background. (Which honestly is still more than the east coast shows got, but that doesn't detract from the fun of being there any) So in short, there's no need to release the full show.

That's just the way I see it anyway. It's mostly a business-related thing. I'm sure they -want- to release a full DVD, but just have to think about their future expenditures. Honestly, though, if they released the Fuji TV airing of the New York show on DVD, I'd be content. That is, if they remaster it to include the all-important piano solo before SWEET DREAMS. There's no excuse for its not having that.

(02-24-2010, 04:32 PM)VAMPS + American Street Team + Wrote: Because perhaps since the sound at the Wiltern is notorious for being really crappy, the other performances didn't go too well in editing. I don't really know, I'm just saying that there are probably reasons why they didn't include the full show.

I'm sure if they can edit songs like REDRUM, I GOTTA KICK START NOW, and MIDNIGHT CELEBRATION to sound good, then they can make the others sound good.

(02-24-2010, 07:13 PM)VAMPkito Wrote:

(02-24-2010, 05:03 AM)VAMPS + American Street Team + Wrote: Ten songs + a documentary is better than no DVD at all. ;) I love the DVD cover, btw...sexy!!

True, but it still would be nice to have all the perks and pleasures of being a Japanese fan. I mean, think about all the cool things we can't buy without going to extensive measures. A VAMPS music box, a wide variety of T-Shirts and accessories, and above all, membership to HYDEIST/VAMPADDICT. Don't get me wrong, I understand fully well that there are good reasons for this, but that doesn't make it any less of a downer, so a full show just like the Japanese DVD's would be the LEAST that would make us happy.

Since I didn't go to the LA show, the only thing I can really say is that the documentary better have good amounts of footage from the show in Baltimore. Seriously, I feel like that show is almost completely overshadowed by the New York and west coast shows and even the VANS Warped Tour shows. You only get, liek, two seconds of them doing ANYTHING in Maryland in the New York documentary. At least with the other shows, you get, liek, 10 seconds of stuff. I mean, did HYDE say "Do you like crabs?" in Portland? Probably not >=| *selfish, selfish, selfish*

(02-24-2010, 01:40 PM)polarwhiteseal Wrote: I don't see any reason why they couldn't include the full concert. I mean, they broadcasted the entire NY concert in japan.

They probably had FujiTV's help for that. I tend to think the reason they're only releasing ten songs is probably because....

1) They'll be releasing VAMPS LIVE 2009 (arena) two months later as well as two new singles and an album in the following months. Distribution costs money and the length and quality of the DVD contributes to the price.

2) They have to save up for the world tour, as well as the Japanese arena tour.

3) Although the target audience is America, it's only going to be distributed in Japan. The Japanese audience, therefore, is predominately going to be buying the arena tour DVD, and who should blame them? Not only is it a show they likely attended in their own homeland, but they were able to decorate the venue to fit the VAMPS atmosphere, which is a bit more exciting than just having the VAMPS album logo in the background. (Which honestly is still more than the east coast shows got, but that doesn't detract from the fun of being there any) So in short, there's no need to release the full show.

That's just the way I see it anyway. It's mostly a business-related thing. I'm sure they -want- to release a full DVD, but just have to think about their future expenditures. Honestly, though, if they released the Fuji TV airing of the New York show on DVD, I'd be content. That is, if they remaster it to include the all-important piano solo before SWEET DREAMS. There's no excuse for its not having that.

(02-24-2010, 04:32 PM)VAMPS + American Street Team + Wrote: Because perhaps since the sound at the Wiltern is notorious for being really crappy, the other performances didn't go too well in editing. I don't really know, I'm just saying that there are probably reasons why they didn't include the full show.

I'm sure if they can edit songs like REDRUM, I GOTTA KICK START NOW, and MIDNIGHT CELEBRATION to sound good, then they can make the others sound good.

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The volume at the Wiltern was too low. So naturally, loud songs like "IGKSN," "REDRUM," and "MIDNIGHT CELEBRATION" are generally loud songs, which is why editing them would be easier than softer songs like "SWEET DREAMS," etc...

I agree with you in the sense that yes, it's not right that we don't have nearly the same amount of access to VAMPS-related merchandise. It sucks, no need to tell me twice. However, VAMPS don't HAVE to release a special DVD for just their tour in the U.S. They didn't even HAVE to tour here in the first place, I'm sure we're all very much aware of this by now. If they wanted to, they could have just made a "VAMPS Live 2009" DVD and include a bonus DVD with just clips from the U.S. tour. While true, releasing two DVDs could quite possibly lead to more profit, it still costs, nonetheless, to create a separate DVD. The thing is though, a lot of other countries don't even have what we have. So, anything "VAMPS U.S.A" -related, I'm grateful to have. Such injustices, unfortunately, are the price we pay as overseas fans.

If you think for a moment, that's the same that the same that happened with the L'Arc~en~Ciel LIVE in the US DVD; while all their concert DVD's had two discs, this one is the only one that consists of one. And I'm not counting the one-song extra of Revelation.

Maybe they don't do such big editions for US shows because they think that they'll sell well enough. You can tell that when the L'Arc US DVD is the cheapest one when you look for it. I mean, I paid $7.00 for it on amazon.

But I am hoping to see something awesome in this DVD, maybe it will be way better than we are already expecting.

And about the wiltern footage, I think that the crowd [including me] was very loud and excited at that show...so I thouhg that they'll use it.

(02-24-2010, 10:23 PM)VAMPS + American Street Team +
dateline='1267064587' Wrote: The volume at the Wiltern was too low. So naturally, loud songs like "IGKSN," "REDRUM," and "MIDNIGHT CELEBRATION" are generally loud songs, which is why editing them would be easier than softer songs like "SWEET DREAMS," etc...

What I meant by that is that there's on those songs, there's a lot of loud instruments doing different rhythms contributed by the audience's loudness. In such a low-volume venue, the instruments merging together would tend to sound like a total mess. With SWEET DREAMS, it's mostly the piano, the drums, and the acoustic bass playing largely the same rhythm, so it's not quite as hard. Even loud songs like COUNTDOWN could be considerably easier than the three I listed because it's based on one central rhythm as opposed to overlapping rhythms. But then, I don't know what special programs and ridiculously-expensive software they use, so I wouldn't know.

Quote:I agree with you in the sense that yes, it's not right that we don't have nearly the same amount of access to VAMPS-related merchandise. It sucks, no need to tell me twice. However, VAMPS don't HAVE to release a special DVD for just their tour in the U.S. They didn't even HAVE to tour here in the first place, I'm sure we're all very much aware of this by now. If they wanted to, they could have just made a "VAMPS Live 2009" DVD and include a bonus DVD with just clips from the U.S. tour. While true, releasing two DVDs could quite possibly lead to more profit, it still costs, nonetheless, to create a separate DVD. The thing is though, a lot of other countries don't even have what we have. So, anything "VAMPS U.S.A" -related, I'm grateful to have. Such injustices, unfortunately, are the price we pay as overseas fans.

Again, I understand all that. Just my expectations were ridiculously high for the DVD, so the news of only 10 songs dumbfounded me, so my outrage is just my way of saying I love their music and only wanted to see them perform more ^^;; - But it's not like VAMPS are exclusive to this practice, nor Japanese musicians in that manner. Even European musicians sometimes release America-based merchandise and only give their American fans half of the treatment they do their domestic fans. At least VAMPS has the courtesy to make their DVD's region-free.

10 songs only? whatever! I still want it badly X-D

I'd love to re-live every song in the DVD, but I am hoping they had good reasons. :-)

At least we get a dvd ...

I do wish Jesus Christ was on there, but ahh well. The sound at the Wiltern sucked anyway

~Gakkuhai (who can't remember the log in)

What do you guys think the other live DVD VAMPS LIVE 2009 will be? I'm really afraid it will be the final day of Budokan. I mean, I think
the Wiltern has the worst setlist VAMPS could ever have and although Budokan final is slightly better, it doesn't come close to the 4th day of Budokan which
has freakin Season's Call, Glamorous Sky and Unexpected and not the same Midnight Celebration as the final song...

Some think the DVD will be the final day of the USJ live...I highly doubt it but if that were the case I would freak out of excitement because apparantly that's one of the best show's they've done and the setlist is pretty much perfect. But seeing how there were crane cameras and stuff at the final day of Budokan...I think I will be really dissapointed.

(02-27-2010, 12:23 PM)Guest Wrote: What do you guys think the other live DVD VAMPS LIVE 2009 will be? I'm really afraid it will be the final day of Budokan. I mean, I think
the Wiltern has the worst setlist VAMPS could ever have and although Budokan final is slightly better, it doesn't come close to the 4th day of Budokan which
has freakin Season's Call, Glamorous Sky and Unexpected and not the same Midnight Celebration as the final song...

Some think the DVD will be the final day of the USJ live...I highly doubt it but if that were the case I would freak out of excitement because apparantly that's one of the best show's they've done and the setlist is pretty much perfect. But seeing how there were crane cameras and stuff at the final day of Budokan...I think I will be really dissapointed.

I have no idea... will have to wait and see