(08-06-2009, 02:37 PM)The Shockstar Wrote: If we had gotten a heads up we could have organized two lines.

My point exactly. For example, when they came out to request we put our trash in the provided containers they could have mentioned that there would be two lines. We would have then split and the late comers would not have ended up in front of the people who had been sitting there already.

(08-05-2009, 04:39 PM)Tokio Wrote: ??? Why did they break the line up? That doesn't seem right -.- screw over all the people that had been waiting all day~

I have no idea... the only answer I got is that they don't care at all X-D I went over to them and told them what had happened, how people was mad because of what they did, and how having the original line SPLITTING into two lines was fair... they said they didn't know who was there first, I told them I had video from the line at different points during the day, that it was all recorded, I could show them, and also I had spent the day walking up and down the line, so I knew who was in which group... they said: "Whatever! it's general admission anyways! you can stand wherever you want inside the place, do what you may, we only care about you forming two lines."
X-D I kept on thinking: sure, because people came to the line early morning to have a chance to stand at the very back...
I saw that "Joey" guy and listened to him at the end of the show, they were in fact nice people... but the fact that someone is nice doesn't make them good at the job they're supposed to do, also their job is to stop people from getting hurt, not making things fair for everyone... but the fact that your job description is poor is not an excuse for you not to care... I think.
Also Adalya got her stuff kicked and Gary was treated in a rude way by SOMA's staff.

They stepped over my banner TOT. And wanted to throw out my sharpies they said it was trash until I explained them and had my friends back me up.

It's no use complaining about it now. Talking about it just makes it more of a bad experience.

Lines get screwed over all the time. I've learned to deal with it because it's not worth complaining over. Nothing ends up changing.

(08-08-2009, 03:48 PM)TBZK Wrote: It's no use complaining about it now. Talking about it just makes it more of a bad experience.

Lines get screwed over all the time. I've learned to deal with it because it's not worth complaining over. Nothing ends up changing.

IF they come back to San Diego and play at SOMA next year, we now know their policy. We could ask ahead of time if they are going to do the two lines and adjust our lines accordingly so late-comers do not end up in front of people who have been sitting.
Most discussions do have some social value......

(08-08-2009, 04:02 PM)cathb Wrote:

(08-08-2009, 03:48 PM)TBZK Wrote: It's no use complaining about it now. Talking about it just makes it more of a bad experience.

Lines get screwed over all the time. I've learned to deal with it because it's not worth complaining over. Nothing ends up changing.

IF they come back to San Diego and play at SOMA next year, we now know their policy. We could ask ahead of time if they are going to do the two lines and adjust our lines accordingly so late-comers do not end up in front of people who have been sitting.
Most discussions do have some social value......

I think this is valuable, we can ALWAYS learn something :-)

I just don't want anyone to ruin their concert experience by talking about such a bad thing. It's not worth it. Yeah learning is good, but remembering it is bad. Just leave it at "now we know" and leave it be.

Now what I totally noticed in the line was the major differences I saw There was some people I was wondering if they were really their for the band o_o...and I was loving the maority casual dress thing. Im not a fan of getting stuck in people's costumes/outfits So all the jumping was a lot more easier and comfortable lol.

(08-09-2009, 03:41 AM)TBZK Wrote: I just don't want anyone to ruin their concert experience by talking about such a bad thing. It's not worth it. Yeah learning is good, but remembering it is bad. Just leave it at "now we know" and leave it be.

Now what I totally noticed in the line was the major differences I saw There was some people I was wondering if they were really their for the band o_o...and I was loving the maority casual dress thing. Im not a fan of getting stuck in people's costumes/outfits So all the jumping was a lot more easier and comfortable lol.

About that, I'm usually on the policy of "Forgive... and don't forget" if you forgive something someone did to you, remembering it is not painful, but useful, so you are warned and more careful. It is pretty much the same to me on experiences, I had a lot of not-nice things happening, like on my last day in USA when I got sort of lost in the middle of nowhere with a few homeless people, alone at 3 am with all my luggage and not enough money X-D But what's valuable to me from that particular day is that at morning, I walked through the walk of fame with Nao and Tori, we all had VAMPS shirts and kept on singing/humming VAMPS songs out of the blue every few minutes, we were extra happy and excited from last night's show :-) I'm sorry if talking about things that went wrong ruins the wonderful experience for you, I have a hard time assimilating that piece of info, because bad memories just don't affect my POV or erase the wonderful things I lived on the trip and in the shows I attended. We might as well try to use some sort of coding on the forum to hide the not-pretty stuff as spoilers or put warnings?

About people "not for the band" why do you thing they were not for the band? :-.
About the costumes/outfits... I DO enjoy them X-D
For SD I used a VAMPS T-shirt, jeans, and a white formal shirt to protect myself from the chilly wind X-D Also fangs, I thought it'd be cool for VAMPS to see fanged smiles... probably they didn't even notice? I think HYDE did, a few people wore fangs.
For LA I did use a stupid bulky outfit :-p But I dunno, I really wanted to do it, I loved the dress, it was made by a friend and her mom and I... and I survived! and didn't hurt anyone in the process!! I jumped and danced and all, in fact I was a padded thing to crash on X-D So I don't see a problem there. I DO think that it might be a problem when people use heavy chains or pointed studs, even boots with iron toes and spikes @_@ THOSE can get people hurt.

(08-09-2009, 07:03 PM)Hedelex Wrote:

(08-09-2009, 03:41 AM)TBZK Wrote: I just don't want anyone to ruin their concert experience by talking about such a bad thing. It's not worth it. Yeah learning is good, but remembering it is bad. Just leave it at "now we know" and leave it be.

Now what I totally noticed in the line was the major differences I saw There was some people I was wondering if they were really their for the band o_o...and I was loving the maority casual dress thing. Im not a fan of getting stuck in people's costumes/outfits So all the jumping was a lot more easier and comfortable lol.

About that, I'm usually on the policy of "Forgive... and don't forget" if you forgive something someone did to you, remembering it is not painful, but useful, so you are warned and more careful. It is pretty much the same to me on experiences, I had a lot of not-nice things happening, like on my last day in USA when I got sort of lost in the middle of nowhere with a few homeless people, alone at 3 am with all my luggage and not enough money X-D But what's valuable to me from that particular day is that at morning, I walked through the walk of fame with Nao and Tori, we all had VAMPS shirts and kept on singing/humming VAMPS songs out of the blue every few minutes, we were extra happy and excited from last night's show :-) I'm sorry if talking about things that went wrong ruins the wonderful experience for you, I have a hard time assimilating that piece of info, because bad memories just don't affect my POV or erase the wonderful things I lived on the trip and in the shows I attended. We might as well try to use some sort of coding on the forum to hide the not-pretty stuff as spoilers or put warnings?

About people "not for the band" why do you thing they were not for the band? :-.
About the costumes/outfits... I DO enjoy them X-D
For SD I used a VAMPS T-shirt, jeans, and a white formal shirt to protect myself from the chilly wind X-D Also fangs, I thought it'd be cool for VAMPS to see fanged smiles... probably they didn't even notice? I think HYDE did, a few people wore fangs.
For LA I did use a stupid bulky outfit :-p But I dunno, I really wanted to do it, I loved the dress, it was made by a friend and her mom and I... and I survived! and didn't hurt anyone in the process!! I jumped and danced and all, in fact I was a padded thing to crash on X-D So I don't see a problem there. I DO think that it might be a problem when people use heavy chains or pointed studs, even boots with iron toes and spikes @_@ THOSE can get people hurt.

I think you need to dress to please yourself and also for the occasion. If you are going to be sitting in a line for a long time, you might want to consider comfortable and protective clothing.
I thought that the cupcake girl was really cute. But I personally would have gone crazy with that cupcake hat tied on my head all day long. Same for the Lolita....all of those frills would have driven me batty.

(08-09-2009, 07:56 PM)cathb Wrote: I think you need to dress to please yourself and also for the occasion. If you are going to be sitting in a line for a long time, you might want to consider comfortable and protective clothing.
I thought that the cupcake girl was really cute. But I personally would have gone crazy with that cupcake hat tied on my head all day long. Same for the Lolita....all of those frills would have driven me batty.

Ohhh!!!! I loved Cupcake-girl!!!!! the cupcake didn't seem to be heavy, and the hoodie of her friend was lovely too!! with HK ears *o* A lot of outfits and hairdos I loved!!!
About the Lolitas, I think they looked gorgeous, but don't know how comfortable they were :-. My dress was very long, but under it I was wearing boots with padding inside (no heels) and capri pants. Also, like I said, it was all paddy, no wires under the skirt or anything like that, so when I was sitting on the floor I felt warm and cushioned X-D

For example I saw people wearing high heeled sandals @____@ I would have died with those on even for half an hour haha. I't a matter of practice and habit maybe?

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(08-09-2009, 07:56 PM)cathb Wrote: I think you need to dress to please yourself and also for the occasion. If you are going to be sitting in a line for a long time, you might want to consider comfortable and protective clothing.
I thought that the cupcake girl was really cute. But I personally would have gone crazy with that cupcake hat tied on my head all day long. Same for the Lolita....all of those frills would have driven me batty.

Ohhh!!!! I loved Cupcake-girl!!!!! the cupcake didn't seem to be heavy, and the hoodie of her friend was lovely too!! with HK ears *o* A lot of outfits and hairdos I loved!!!
About the Lolitas, I think they looked gorgeous, but don't know how comfortable they were :-. My dress was very long, but under it I was wearing boots with padding inside (no heels) and capri pants. Also, like I said, it was all paddy, no wires under the skirt or anything like that, so when I was sitting on the floor I felt warm and cushioned X-D

For example I saw people wearing high heeled sandals @____@ I would have died with those on even for half an hour haha. I't a matter of practice and habit maybe?