(05-17-2010, 08:42 PM)Billkwando Wrote: LOL My wife owns the DVD. It not like I hate it hate it. I just don't like musicals. I do hate me some Meatloaf, but he's a good actor nowadays. Tim Curry does make me laugh, also.

But yeah. This actually kinda brings up my main gripe with Live Wire. If I wanted to listen to gemeric American rock, I would totally do that, and pay a lot less than $30 a CD. It's just one song, but it's like....I endured Sex Blood RnR & Hunting cos, like Hyde said "We created music especially for cool lives" but I didn't know they were just planning on being a party music band.

Granted, Cosmos, Sweet Dreams, Secret in my Heart, Redrum, those are songs that could be on any Hyde album. I guess I just think it's a shame that as they get a wider audience, it seems like people are missing out on some of the depth that Hyde's solo work (w/ KAZ too) has had in the past.

I still love their music, and I'm glad they're having fun. I just don't see how anyone could hold up Vamps and say that album is better than 666 or Faith.

It sounds harsher than I really mean it. I guess I'm saying that if the songs can be 100% awesome, why settle for 97%?

Well, to me, I don't think much has changed since the 666 and FAITH days. I know you're all thinking "OH, BUT IT HAS CHANGED. HE'S BECOME A BAD BOY" and yadda-yadda-yadda, but actually... he hasn't -become- a bad boy; he's always acted that way. (Also, the whole "K.A.Z NOW GETS MORE SPOTLIGHT AND IS AN ACTIVE PART OF THE BAND" is sort of invalid, as he got a lot of screen time beforehand too; granted not as much as he deserved or as much as he gets now, but compared to HIROKI and FURUTON, he was treated with a generous amount of attention) When people think of HYDE, they usually think of romantic and emotional works, so the first thing they think about is L'Arc, BUT when you mention his solo work, they think of FAITH, which is the undeniably the most emotional of all his albums, but they don't think of SWEET VANILLA, WORDS OF LOVE, and songs like that, which are very VAMPSy in my opinion. To me, songs like HUNTING and SEX BLOOD ROCK N' ROLL could also easily fit into one of HYDE's solo albums.

My only problem with the direction VAMPS has gone is the fact that tracks like HUNTING are often treated like full songs. I've said this many times before and I'll say it again: HUNTING is just a modified version of the HELLO live intro, and during lives, it still serves its purpose as an intro track to either HELLO or HIDEAWAY (whichever one they feel will be most beneficial to the live), BUT it's on the set list as a full song, not an intro track, which essentially means that, in reality, we get only 18 songs instead of the traditional 19, and the VAMPS LIVE 2009 U.S.A. DVD gets only 9 songs as opposed to 10.

I also disagree with your comment that they planned to be only a "party music" band. Like you said, the other songs could easily fit into a HYDE album, which is a dramatic, liek, 9 songs that are like that compared to about 4 songs that can technically be considered "party music." So to me, the original depth is still there. HOWEVER, I do see your point. I definitely prefer HYDE's more emotional, heart-felt albums, and FAITH was an amazing album that overflowed with amazing songs with lots of depth both in the lyrics and in the musical composition. It was, in my opinion, perfect; without a single bad song. 666 was close, but the aforementioned SWEET VANILLA and WORDS OF LOVE, while they are amazing songs, pale to compare with the rest of the songs. Those are the songs I compare to songs like LOVE ADDICT and SEX BLOOD ROCK N' ROLL. They are great songs, but aren't the songs that make the album amazing.

Although I don't know if I agree about LIVE WIRE sounding like generic American rock music, I see why you might say that. To me, it sounds a lot like HIDEAWAY so my only real complaint is that it sounds too much like something they've already put out.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that to me, 666, FAITH, VAMPS and eventually BEAST... well, while two of them may have been part of a completely different project, but I still get the same feeling when I'm listening to them, no difference at all (although I'll admit that when LOVE ADDICT came out, I was scared for the quality of the rest of the songs; I didn't like the fact that the CD art had a naked woman on it, and I didn't like the fact that the song was mostly about sex. HYDE's solo project debuted on a powerful note, evergreen, but VAMPS debuts with... LOVE ADDICT?)

But I guess I understand what you're getting at and although I don't exactly agree, I respect.