I think CDJapan always lists it as region 2. I remember they had the last tour dvd listed that way but it's all-region.

The DVD is not region-free. I just finished watching it and I had to download a region-free DVD player for my laptop in order to watch it. Go here:

http://www.dvd-x-player.com/

And download the trial version so you can watch the DVD on your laptop.

Oh yeah, I also tried playing it on my DVD player at home, and yeah. "Region error," the DVD said. Sorry guys. :(

- H.P.

(03-17-2010, 11:56 PM)VAMPS + American Street Team + Wrote: The DVD is not region-free. I just finished watching it and I had to download a region-free DVD player for my laptop in order to watch it. Go here:

http://www.dvd-x-player.com/

And download the trial version so you can watch the DVD on your laptop.

Oh yeah, I also tried playing it on my DVD player at home, and yeah. "Region error," the DVD said. Sorry guys. :(

- H.P.

Just got done watching it, too. What memories.....good and bad. The tremendous shows and being crushed in Las Vegas.

They look like they had a great time. We can only hope for lots of shows. And the money to go to them!!

Not to sound like a whiner, but not only did they cut ten songs from the set list but also didn't even make it region-free? To be honest, if we were still in the FAITH days, I'd expect it to still be in Region 2 even if it IS directed even partially to the American fans, but the fact is that J already said "Expect all DVD's in the future to be region-free." I feel deceived and lied to >: I hadn't had plans to get the DVD anyway, but good lord, it's like if I were to give a younger relative a toy for his birthday, then cut the toy in half, and then take the batteries out. There's simply no winning in that situation.

And again, to be perfectly honest, I didn't expect them to make ANY of the DVD's region-free, so VAMPS LIVE 2008 being region-free was definitely a nice prize, but the very point in releasing it region-free was to help the band reach out to viewers across the oceans, so you would think that if ANY of the DVD's would be region-free, then the most logical choice would be the one that was made for overseas fans.

So before I continue ranting on about this, I must ask how much more it costs to produce and distribute a region-free DVD as opposed to a specific-region DVD? I would imagine the latter would cost more as there is more programming involved in the locking of regions than there is in simply leaving out the lock-out device. Even in that case, though, I don't think that the region has anything to do with the price (though don't quote me on that). The weight and amount of content on the disc would remain the same regardless, so I'm pretty sure that they're not making it region-free has nothing to do with cost, so I see no reason why this DVD isn't region-free... well, except maybe one thing.

I even said myself, in this very topic I do believe, that I was just going to look up this DVD on YouTube, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Many non-Japanese (not to say Japanese fans DON'T do this, but since they have the luxury of domestic distribution, the amount that do so is probably dramatically less) fans will and have done the same thing with most of their DVD's, including FAITH LIVE, VAMPS LIVE 2008 and even the singles' DVD's (for the making-of documentary). The third of which is forgivable, however, as the DVD's in those only come in the first press editions.

So what am I getting at with this? Well, although I just engaged in a long rant about how irritating it was that they didn't release it in a region-free format, I think I see WHY they chose to not do so in the first place, and that is that they are potentially becoming more and more aware and less and less forgiving of our illegal viewing--and illegal uploading for that matter--of their material. Remember, they now have a VAMPROSE YouTube channel, so although they would occasionally file a copyright complaint to YouTube, subsequently causing the video to be deleted and the account of the uploader to be given the appropriate punishment beforehand, they now host much of their content on the exact same site that people continue to illegally view and upload their videos to, so chances are that they can see clearly for their own eyes just what most of us are doing- that is, viewing their content for free and not supporting them by buying it ourselves, which to a musician is like a slap across the face.

The sad part is that many people don't see the harm they're doing. They think things like "Oh, they get too much money anyway" or "What's one download?" What they don't realize is that everyone else is thinking the exact same thing. Therefore, it's not a direct loss, but an accumulated loss. Millions and millions of downloads are made each day and the music industry is a critical target. Thousands upon thousands of potential dollars go down the drain each day, which is why the music industry is currently under fire today.

Please don't mistake my words, though. I'm pretty sure that most of the people on this board have done the right thing and supported them by purchasing their DVD's, but this board is without a doubt FAR from an accurate representation of the overall overseas fandome. A good deal of us have sadly not done a very good job in supporting VAMPS.

BUT Let's not spend all our time pointing fingers or placing the blame on VAMPS. Instead, I think this is the perfect opportunity and just the sort of reasoning we need to get out there and rack our brains for ideas so that we can work harder for more ideas to promote and support VAMPS and encourage others to do so as well. VAMPS have busted their asses for us many times in the past, and this September, they're about to do so again even though we, on many occasions, have failed to support them. I've read many interviews of HYDE and seen many videos in which HYDE would consider himself less-than-worthy or in one particular instance call him "undeserving" of the praise and love he gets from his fans, which, as well all know, is far from true. It is the fans that are undeserving of all the love, dedication, and general quirks we get as a result of his hard work, but still he does so much for us.

Long story short, let's work together to continue supporting VAMPS and encouraging others to do the same so that maybe we can continue to get the region-free DVD's we love so much.

Being region-free or not seems like a small problem.. but in this situation, it's adding fuel to the flame. I see you're going at VAMPkito, no worries bro. They need to think of us fans more.

let's just be glad they will be returning to the US this coming Fall. :D then we will give them hell about the DVD >:D

(03-18-2010, 02:43 AM)polarwhiteseal Wrote: Being region-free or not seems like a small problem.. but in this situation, it's adding fuel to the flame. I see you're going at VAMPkito, no worries bro. They need to think of us fans more.

let's just be glad they will be returning to the US this coming Fall. :D then we will give them hell about the DVD >:D

LOL I really don't see a big issue on the DVD thing :-p
About support... many fans from Latin America have reacted not angry at VAMPS but at themselves, and I disagree. I am not angry at VAMPS, last year I was VERY angry because of the first name of the tour and what it really was (AMERICA TOUR->USA TOUR) might seem a logical thing for people living in the USA, but for us was like being told we'd get cookies, then saying we wouldn't because it was obvious they were not addressing all of us or something like that :-p It was for me a matter of how things were said, about painful misunderstandings and the apparent lack of sensitivity to tell us we weren't in. Were we naive? most likely, but still we were hurt, we didn't need to be called silly after that shock X-D
This time around they've been very careful, I respect that a lot.
But as I don't blame them, I don't think we should blame ourselves. During last year's tour, we fans were told a lot that the band was bound to be awesome if we had traveled, camped, made banners, whatever for them, they ARE awesome, but we do our best too. Promoting VAMPS is not our "duty" or "homework", it is our pleasure :-D

It's odd since the DVD says that it's all region. I hadn't have the chance to sit down and put the DVD yet, but I hope to be able to see it. If not, then it will be the time to buy a new DVD player.

Or if anyone knows a way to decode my old one...videohelper.com gave a broken link to solve it -_-

My DVD player is a: Goldstar GBV441

And again, to be perfectly honest, I didn't expect them to make ANY of the DVD's region-free, so VAMPS LIVE 2008 being region-free was definitely a nice prize, but the very point in releasing it region-free was to help the band reach out to viewers across the oceans, so you would think that if ANY of the DVD's would be region-free, then the most logical choice would be the one that was made for overseas fans.

Did VAMPS say that this DVD was being made for overseas fans? They may have and I missed it somewhere. However, if it was made for their Japanese fans to see what they did in America, then putting it in region 2 makes perfect sense. The little thingy inside of it was for Japanese phones only. Granted American fans would want to see the video since it was shot and performed in the U.S.A., but then we also buy their Japanese videos, too, even though the majority of us don't attend the shows in Japan.
Just a thought.

(03-18-2010, 10:11 AM)cathb Wrote: And again, to be perfectly honest, I didn't expect them to make ANY of the DVD's region-free, so VAMPS LIVE 2008 being region-free was definitely a nice prize, but the very point in releasing it region-free was to help the band reach out to viewers across the oceans, so you would think that if ANY of the DVD's would be region-free, then the most logical choice would be the one that was made for overseas fans.

Did VAMPS say that this DVD was being made for overseas fans? They may have and I missed it somewhere. However, if it was made for their Japanese fans to see what they did in America, then putting it in region 2 makes perfect sense. The little thingy inside of it was for Japanese phones only. Granted American fans would want to see the video since it was shot and performed in the U.S.A., but then we also buy their Japanese videos, too, even though the majority of us don't attend the shows in Japan.
Just a thought.

Sad but I agree, not to mention that's why they shortened the setlist, so they wouldn't repeat the songs with the main dvd (the japanese one) and that is why even the quality of recording is better in the japanese live..(have you seen the trailer at the end?.. puts the USA dvd live to shame) Maybe for Japanese fans not to get jealous and overprotective again? =_="

(03-18-2010, 03:23 AM)Hedelex Wrote:

(03-18-2010, 02:43 AM)polarwhiteseal Wrote: Being region-free or not seems like a small problem.. but in this situation, it's adding fuel to the flame. I see you're going at VAMPkito, no worries bro. They need to think of us fans more.

let's just be glad they will be returning to the US this coming Fall. :D then we will give them hell about the DVD >:D

LOL I really don't see a big issue on the DVD thing :-p
About support... many fans from Latin America have reacted not angry at VAMPS but at themselves, and I disagree. I am not angry at VAMPS, last year I was VERY angry because of the first name of the tour and what it really was (AMERICA TOUR->USA TOUR) might seem a logical thing for people living in the USA, but for us was like being told we'd get cookies, then saying we wouldn't because it was obvious they were not addressing all of us or something like that :-p It was for me a matter of how things were said, about painful misunderstandings and the apparent lack of sensitivity to tell us we weren't in. Were we naive? most likely, but still we were hurt, we didn't need to be called silly after that shock X-D
This time around they've been very careful, I respect that a lot.
But as I don't blame them, I don't think we should blame ourselves. During last year's tour, we fans were told a lot that the band was bound to be awesome if we had traveled, camped, made banners, whatever for them, they ARE awesome, but we do our best too. Promoting VAMPS is not our "duty" or "homework", it is our pleasure :-D

haha there aren't any one big issue with the DVD. It's just multiple ones that add up, that's what I meant.

Yeah, I can see your frustration, Hedelex, with the whole misunderstanding of "America Tour." They should really specify. Then again, people from outside America doesn't really see the way we do. To them, we are a huge country, so I'm guessing they can only generalize rather than specify where they would perform in a country. Sorta like how we think of Europe. What's the first thing we think of? Probably London for most of us. We only think of the big name cities rather than small unknown ones. Just my two cents. I don't know what I'm yapping about lol.

*sigh* either way, the DVD is out. Not much we can do now. If J ever holds a panel again like he did at Anime Expo 2009, let's voice our opinions again and make something clear to him so he can relay the info back to VAMPS. And please, to certain people(probably no one on this forums), don't ask him silly questions again...