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Thanks for the link! I hadn't seen this.

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Thanks for sharing! While I'm thrilled to see VAMPS are getting all the publicity now, I'm kind of disappointed in this article. It's pretty misleading. For one, they refer to LOVE ADDICT as the "latest single." ...Uh, no, it's their first single. =/ - Furthermore, it is said that the song "epitomizes" the band's typical sound with its music and "senseless lyrics." VAMPS has never been just one genre, not even during HYDE's solo career. It's always been a variation of many different genres.

While I'll admit that LOVE ADDICT definitely had the most senseless lyrics, that is just one song. You can't say songs like EVANESCENT, SWEET DREAMS, VAMPIRE DEPRESSION, were even in the slightest bit "senseless." They were all thought out and, when in English, were mostly executed perfectly. Some may not like the lyrics, but even if you don't, there's a difference between "bad" and "senseless."

And, a minor complaint, that they referred to EVANESCENT as "emo paean." Hehe... no it's not >> - And lastly, they referred to the song titles as "Gothic." Don't get me wrong here, I'm a huge fan of Goth, Industrial, dark music, and all that fun stuff. But the names are NOT Gothic, at all. Vampiric, yes. Gothic? By no means.

I understand that the article was not trying to criticize VAMPS, and were, in fact, praising them more than anything, but surely they could have been decent and done a bit more research before writing an article and maybe should have put more thought and consideration into what they used to describe them.

But again, it's good they got this kind of attention, even if the article seemed to be written by someone who knew nothing of what he/she was talking about.
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(08-26-2009, 04:28 PM)VAMPkito Wrote: Thanks for sharing! While I'm thrilled to see VAMPS are getting all the publicity now, I'm kind of disappointed in this article. It's pretty misleading. For one, they refer to LOVE ADDICT as the "latest single." ...Uh, no, it's their first single. =/ - Furthermore, it is said that the song "epitomizes" the band's typical sound with its music and "senseless lyrics." VAMPS has never been just one genre, not even during HYDE's solo career. It's always been a variation of many different genres.

While I'll admit that LOVE ADDICT definitely had the most senseless lyrics, that is just one song. You can't say songs like EVANESCENT, SWEET DREAMS, VAMPIRE DEPRESSION, were even in the slightest bit "senseless." They were all thought out and, when in English, were mostly executed perfectly. Some may not like the lyrics, but even if you don't, there's a difference between "bad" and "senseless."

And, a minor complaint, that they referred to EVANESCENT as "emo paean." Hehe... no it's not >> - And lastly, they referred to the song titles as "Gothic." Don't get me wrong here, I'm a huge fan of Goth, Industrial, dark music, and all that fun stuff. But the names are NOT Gothic, at all. Vampiric, yes. Gothic? By no means.

I understand that the article was not trying to criticize VAMPS, and were, in fact, praising them more than anything, but surely they could have been decent and done a bit more research before writing an article and maybe should have put more thought and consideration into what they used to describe them.

But again, it's good they got this kind of attention, even if the article seemed to be written by someone who knew nothing of what he/she was talking about.

I definitely see your points (and generally agree with them).

but I do feel this is an improvement over the type of coverage Hyde received with the Faith Tour shows here in the states. Most of those articles seemed to be very dismissive of him and his fanbase. So it definitely has inaccuracies, but I am happy to see an article coming from a positive place. You know what I mean?
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(08-26-2009, 04:28 PM)VAMPkito Wrote: Thanks for sharing! While I'm thrilled to see VAMPS are getting all the publicity now, I'm kind of disappointed in this article. It's pretty misleading. For one, they refer to LOVE ADDICT as the "latest single." ...Uh, no, it's their first single. =/ - Furthermore, it is said that the song "epitomizes" the band's typical sound with its music and "senseless lyrics." VAMPS has never been just one genre, not even during HYDE's solo career. It's always been a variation of many different genres.

While I'll admit that LOVE ADDICT definitely had the most senseless lyrics, that is just one song. You can't say songs like EVANESCENT, SWEET DREAMS, VAMPIRE DEPRESSION, were even in the slightest bit "senseless." They were all thought out and, when in English, were mostly executed perfectly. Some may not like the lyrics, but even if you don't, there's a difference between "bad" and "senseless."

And, a minor complaint, that they referred to EVANESCENT as "emo paean." Hehe... no it's not >> - And lastly, they referred to the song titles as "Gothic." Don't get me wrong here, I'm a huge fan of Goth, Industrial, dark music, and all that fun stuff. But the names are NOT Gothic, at all. Vampiric, yes. Gothic? By no means.

I understand that the article was not trying to criticize VAMPS, and were, in fact, praising them more than anything, but surely they could have been decent and done a bit more research before writing an article and maybe should have put more thought and consideration into what they used to describe them.

But again, it's good they got this kind of attention, even if the article seemed to be written by someone who knew nothing of what he/she was talking about.

I think that it is good they are getting any kind of publicity. However, the thing that jumped out at me (Icey....where are you) is that they put an extra period after the Z in K. A. Z
You would think that their names would be spelled right.
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I'm glad they were covered by TIME, but I don't like very much the article.
Maybe it is because English is not my mother tongue, but I find it very hard to read, uses a lot of strange complicated words and I feel it really doesn't give me any real useful information, other, of course, than criticizing the band a little bit, using terms like "raucous", "senseless", and "opportunistic". They also implying in the article that VAMPS is not a serious band, since they say it's like a vacation or a hobby, not a real daytime job... I mean, VAMPS is a strong overseas project! They want to have fun and to give listeners a good time, but they work hard, it is not a shallow joke.
Well, don't pay much attention to me, like I said maybe it is just because I'm not used to that style of a short article. I mean, if they were going to be so technical, maybe mention more references to, say, their other bands and what they have accomplished; maybe info about the USA tour, about the fanbase spread around the world, the distribution of the album, the role of japanese bands in occidental market nowadays, the VAMPS musicians influences, etc.
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RE: VAMPS - TIME Article
(08-28-2009, 07:19 PM)Hedelex Wrote: I'm glad they were covered by TIME, but I don't like very much the article.
Maybe it is because English is not my mother tongue, but I find it very hard to read, uses a lot of strange complicated words and I feel it really doesn't give me any real useful information, other, of course, than criticizing the band a little bit, using terms like "raucous", "senseless", and "opportunistic". They also implying in the article that VAMPS is not a serious band, since they say it's like a vacation or a hobby, not a real daytime job... I mean, VAMPS is a strong overseas project! They want to have fun and to give listeners a good time, but they work hard, it is not a shallow joke.
Well, don't pay much attention to me, like I said maybe it is just because I'm not used to that style of a short article. I mean, if they were going to be so technical, maybe mention more references to, say, their other bands and what they have accomplished; maybe info about the USA tour, about the fanbase spread around the world, the distribution of the album, the role of japanese bands in occidental market nowadays, the VAMPS musicians influences, etc.

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Because doing that would have required the author to do some "real" research. This person didn't even listen to the album, from the way the article was written, buy anyway... I totally agree with you.
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VAMPkito Wrote: Thanks for sharing! While I'm thrilled to see VAMPS are getting all the publicity now, I'm kind of disappointed in this article. It's pretty misleading. For one, they refer to LOVE ADDICT as the "latest single." ...Uh, no, it's their first single. =/ - Furthermore, it is said that the song "epitomizes" the band's typical sound with its music and "senseless lyrics." VAMPS has never been just one genre, not even during HYDE's solo career. It's always been a variation of many different genres.

While I'll admit that LOVE ADDICT definitely had the most senseless lyrics, that is just one song. You can't say songs like EVANESCENT, SWEET DREAMS, VAMPIRE DEPRESSION, were even in the slightest bit "senseless." They were all thought out and, when in English, were mostly executed perfectly. Some may not like the lyrics, but even if you don't, there's a difference between "bad" and "senseless."

And, a minor complaint, that they referred to EVANESCENT as "emo paean." Hehe... no it's not >> - And lastly, they referred to the song titles as "Gothic." Don't get me wrong here, I'm a huge fan of Goth, Industrial, dark music, and all that fun stuff. But the names are NOT Gothic, at all. Vampiric, yes. Gothic? By no means.

I understand that the article was not trying to criticize VAMPS, and were, in fact, praising them more than anything, but surely they could have been decent and done a bit more research before writing an article and maybe should have put more thought and consideration into what they used to describe them.

But again, it's good they got this kind of attention, even if the article seemed to be written by someone who knew nothing of what he/she was talking about.
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Hedelex Wrote: I'm glad they were covered by TIME, but I don't like very much the article.
Maybe it is because English is not my mother tongue, but I find it very hard to read, uses a lot of strange complicated words and I feel it really doesn't give me any real useful information, other, of course, than criticizing the band a little bit, using terms like "raucous", "senseless", and "opportunistic". They also implying in the article that VAMPS is not a serious band, since they say it's like a vacation or a hobby, not a real daytime job... I mean, VAMPS is a strong overseas project! They want to have fun and to give listeners a good time, but they work hard, it is not a shallow joke.
Well, don't pay much attention to me, like I said maybe it is just because I'm not used to that style of a short article. I mean, if they were going to be so technical, maybe mention more references to, say, their other bands and what they have accomplished; maybe info about the USA tour, about the fanbase spread around the world, the distribution of the album, the role of japanese bands in occidental market nowadays, the VAMPS musicians influences, etc.

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VAMPkito and Hedelex just voiced all of the complaints i have made about that article, but in a much less snarky manner. Cheers! (^_^)Y Icon_heart

below is my comment a couple of days ago, the lone comment i might add on the vampsrosexxx lj community after Iceybabes posted the article.

"they made a few mistakes, like LOVE ADDICT being the latest single. and i think they tried too hard to make Hyde and KAZ sound like what they are doing with VAMPS is just to break into the western market, especially referring to their "opportunistic nod to the current youthful fad for all things vampirical." maybe i'm reading too much into their attempts to over-simplify japanese rock for people who know nothing about it. i actually think Hyde's vocals are less "grungy" on this album. this.."the album sees them do what they do best, showcasing screeching vocals and guitar against the unobtrusive, workmanlike backing of a rhythm section of keyboards, bass and drums. Almost all experimental fat is trimmed." eeehhh? is that supposed to be complimentary? idk. it was a bit disappointing, but i expect too much. "


being covered by a nationally recognized periodical is great, we need lots of that to achieve VAMPS' goals. but one would hope the writer would get their facts straight first. it's like being offered a lovely piece of rich chocolate and then finding that what is in your hand is a tootsie roll. nothing against TR, but rich chocolate it is not! Icon_domokun

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(08-29-2009, 01:55 AM)mamikochan Wrote: VAMPkito Wrote: Thanks for sharing! While I'm thrilled to see VAMPS are getting all the publicity now, I'm kind of disappointed in this article. It's pretty misleading. For one, they refer to LOVE ADDICT as the "latest single." ...Uh, no, it's their first single. =/ - Furthermore, it is said that the song "epitomizes" the band's typical sound with its music and "senseless lyrics." VAMPS has never been just one genre, not even during HYDE's solo career. It's always been a variation of many different genres.

While I'll admit that LOVE ADDICT definitely had the most senseless lyrics, that is just one song. You can't say songs like EVANESCENT, SWEET DREAMS, VAMPIRE DEPRESSION, were even in the slightest bit "senseless." They were all thought out and, when in English, were mostly executed perfectly. Some may not like the lyrics, but even if you don't, there's a difference between "bad" and "senseless."

And, a minor complaint, that they referred to EVANESCENT as "emo paean." Hehe... no it's not >> - And lastly, they referred to the song titles as "Gothic." Don't get me wrong here, I'm a huge fan of Goth, Industrial, dark music, and all that fun stuff. But the names are NOT Gothic, at all. Vampiric, yes. Gothic? By no means.

I understand that the article was not trying to criticize VAMPS, and were, in fact, praising them more than anything, but surely they could have been decent and done a bit more research before writing an article and maybe should have put more thought and consideration into what they used to describe them.

But again, it's good they got this kind of attention, even if the article seemed to be written by someone who knew nothing of what he/she was talking about.
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Hedelex Wrote: I'm glad they were covered by TIME, but I don't like very much the article.
Maybe it is because English is not my mother tongue, but I find it very hard to read, uses a lot of strange complicated words and I feel it really doesn't give me any real useful information, other, of course, than criticizing the band a little bit, using terms like "raucous", "senseless", and "opportunistic". They also implying in the article that VAMPS is not a serious band, since they say it's like a vacation or a hobby, not a real daytime job... I mean, VAMPS is a strong overseas project! They want to have fun and to give listeners a good time, but they work hard, it is not a shallow joke.
Well, don't pay much attention to me, like I said maybe it is just because I'm not used to that style of a short article. I mean, if they were going to be so technical, maybe mention more references to, say, their other bands and what they have accomplished; maybe info about the USA tour, about the fanbase spread around the world, the distribution of the album, the role of japanese bands in occidental market nowadays, the VAMPS musicians influences, etc.

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VAMPkito and Hedelex just voiced all of the complaints i have made about that article, but in a much less snarky manner. Cheers! (^_^)Y Icon_heart

below is my comment a couple of days ago, the lone comment i might add on the vampsrosexxx lj community after Iceybabes posted the article.

"they made a few mistakes, like LOVE ADDICT being the latest single. and i think they tried too hard to make Hyde and KAZ sound like what they are doing with VAMPS is just to break into the western market, especially referring to their "opportunistic nod to the current youthful fad for all things vampirical." maybe i'm reading too much into their attempts to over-simplify japanese rock for people who know nothing about it. i actually think Hyde's vocals are less "grungy" on this album. this.."the album sees them do what they do best, showcasing screeching vocals and guitar against the unobtrusive, workmanlike backing of a rhythm section of keyboards, bass and drums. Almost all experimental fat is trimmed." eeehhh? is that supposed to be complimentary? idk. it was a bit disappointing, but i expect too much. "


being covered by a nationally recognized periodical is great, we need lots of that to achieve VAMPS' goals. but one would hope the writer would get their facts straight first. it's like being offered a lovely piece of rich chocolate and then finding that what is in your hand is a tootsie roll. nothing against TR, but rich chocolate it is not! Icon_domokun

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This is even more of an incentive to be out there promoting the hell out of VAMPS. To, in some sense, "educate" an otherwise "misinformed" public about their music. ;) *hint, hint*
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I think there were and still are many promotion complications and lack of detail management from Neubauhaus. =/
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